Showing posts with label harmony. Show all posts
Showing posts with label harmony. Show all posts

Wednesday 23 September 2009

When we love we do not need laws


If everyone would keep God's laws and would keep to love,
we would not to have civil laws who should remind us what we can and can not.
If we love God we know how we should live in harmony.
Where love has entered, there is no law necessary to focus.
- Marcus Ampe

We too often love things and use people
when we should be using things and loving people.
- Author Unknown

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
We must learn to live together as brothers, or perish together as fools.
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

The first duty of love is to listen.
- Paul Tillich

“Let not kindness and truth forsake thee: Bind them about thy neck; Write them upon the tablet of thy heart:”
Proverbs 3:3

“Hatred stirreth up strifes; But love covereth all transgressions.”
Proverbs 10:12

“Do they not err that devise evil? But mercy and truth [shall be to] them that devise good.”
Proverbs 14:22

God I am grateful for the love you give me
I ask You that I shall be able to give much love to others.


Dutch version / Nederlandse versie > Wanneeer wij liefhebben is er geen nood aan wetten
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2013 update:
 
English: Dr. Martin Luther King giving his "I Have a Dream" speech during the March on Washington in Washington, D.C., on 28 August 1963. Español: Dr. Martin Luther King dando su discurso "Yo tengo un sueño" durante la Marcha sobre Washington por el trabajo y la libertad en Washington, D.C., 28 de agosto de 1963. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
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Friday 23 January 2009

2 Corinthians 5:19 - God in Christ

 “in that God was in Christ reconciling to Himself a world of humankind, no longer reckoning to them their trespasses–and He entrusted to us the message of reconciliation.” (2Co 5:19 MHM)

The thought many would like for us to see in this verse is that God was in
Christ, and being in Christ this makes Christ God Almighty. This, of course, is not what the verse is saying.

> 2 Corinthians 5:19 - God in Christ: http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=56

God was in Christ, or by means of Christ, reconciling the world to
himself. That is all that is says.
In Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting the message of reconciliation to us. — 2 Corinthians 5:19, New Revised Standard Version
God was using Christ as the instrument to restore his relationship with humanity.
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Jesus himself gives us a hint as to its meaning, when he tells his
disciples: “In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.” (John 14:20)
Here Jesus likens his relationship to his Father to his relationship to his disciples. Now if his being in his father means that he is God, then his being in his disciples and his disciples’ being in him, would make the disciples God Almighty also, since, according to trinitarian philosophy, Jesus is God Almighty. Of course, none of these scriptures mean that Jesus is God Almighty, but it does show a closeness, a harmony between God and Jesus, and between Jesus and his disciples.
Jesus praying to his God (John 17:1,3), that his disciples “may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us.” Here it is plainly stated that the two unions are the same kind of union.
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None of this means that Jesus is Yahweh, or that the church is Yahweh, or that the church is Jesus, etc. Thus there is nothing in 2 Corinthians 5:19 that would lead us to believe that Jesus is Yahweh, or that Jesus was God Almighty in human form.
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Of interest:
Matthew
http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=61
Studies of Scriptures in Matthew

Revelation 1:8 - Is Yahweh or Jesus Being Quoted?
http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=66
Who is speaking in Revelation 1:8? Jesus or the God and Father of Jesus?

The Doctrine of Christ
http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=72
A Scriptural and Historic Examination of the Trinity Doctrine (Associated Bible
Students, Glawson, MI)

Father of Eternity - Isaiah 9:6
http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=78
An examination of the argument that Isaiah 9:6 speaks of Jesus as the "father
of eternity."

Isaiah 9:6 and the Alleged Trinity
http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=82
In response to some trinitarian claims concerning Isaiah 9:6.

The Spirit Given to Jesus Without Measure - John 3:34,35
http://godandson.reslight.net/?p=88
The scripture (John 3:34) says that Jesus has the holy spirit without measure.
Does the mean that Jesus is the only true God?

Friday 2 January 2009

Baptised sister not of higher status before God then an unbaptised young male?

Robin Hughes from New Zealand wrote in a Facebook topic:

When an unbaptised young male is allowed to speak is not the baptised sister not of higher status before God?
One of the issues involved is that of usurping authority. If she is not usurping authority then that eliminates that as an issue in that particular situation.

The issue of Disorder in the meeting is not valid if its building harmony.
Don't get legal on this. Its not a matter of God having made this rule and so everyone must do this or that there is not such a rule and so therefore we can do whatever we like. We have freedom in Christ and yet Love constrains us.

What are the issues the apostles were looking at? Is it really about sisters being weak or is it really about brothers being weak?

Adam failed to Lead the woman in the beginning. The woman failed to follow. So it appears we are each condemned to do what we are weakest at. That which we need to learn and do.

We know that Jesus's view of woman was much better then that of the Jews. Jesus brang the woman forward out of the Womans part of the synagogue to the mens part so that he might heal her.

Pauls teachings although they may seem harsh on woman was actually liberating considering how they had been treated prior to this.

Through christ the woman had found Freedom at last. The issue of taking their head coverings off arose and Paul showed good reasoning for keeping the head covering on when praying and prophesying. Something he reminded them was demanded by Roman Law.

Paul had much concern for the disorder entering the Eclessia due to the new found Freedom in Christ. One of the long list referred to the speaking of the women some of which were uneducated. Asking Questions in the meeting that were very disruptive. So rather then this they should ask at home so that the meeting could proceed in order.

As for teaching the bible gives the children that is the unbaptised to be taught by her. This is largely due to the need for someone to take responsibility for their education and tuition. This is a priveledge and not something to be taken lightly. Under Jewish practice the Rabai probably did a lot of this teaching.
The woman having a lesser Role is a myth. Its just as important as the Male's who are expected to lead for their growth and development a very difficult thing for males who find it much easier to do what their wives tell them. The woman naturally finds it easy to lead and so it is to her to learn in quietness and meekness.

So this is my view. Everything that is in scripture is for our learning. Walk in Love. Err on the side of caution. Do not create a stumbling block for your brother/sister. If a woman is to read or speak it should be not usurping the brothers role, that is of authority, that if they ask her to read or speak and it be with the consent of those brothers present. Any situation when the unbaptised is allowed to read or speak the Sisters should definately be allowed to speak.

The responsibility of Love goes both ways. Whether you are strict or liberal to walk in love to act out of love and care for your brothers and sisters rather then out of Fleshly legalistic desires. For legal thinking is of the world and the thinking of Love and care comes from the spirit.

One of the things that God loves most Is unity
and One of the things he hates most is divisiveness.

Shouldn't we be taking these things into consideration when looking at issues. Whatever is not of Love is not of God.

Jesus's Teachings were Love. His doctrine is to Love God and one another. If you miss the basics of the truth when examining the details of walking in love. Then you have completely missed the point. When an issue arises I believe God is more concerned about how we behave then who is right.
Its more important to do what you believe then believe what is right. We know this from the scripture. We know that although Paul had Freedom in Christ that love constrained him that although sometimes we have the freedom to do things that doesn't mean its the right or most loving thing to do.