Showing posts with label trinitarians. Show all posts
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Tuesday 29 August 2017

Jeshuaists or Followers of Jeshua

Because there being lots of Messianics (Messianic Jews and Messianic Christians) who say they are following the Nazarene master teacher Jeshua, but having made him into their god, several Messianic Jews as well as some Christians want to separate or distance themselves from those trinitarian believers.

Jeshua-ists are believers in only One God, the God of Israel. The God about Whom Jesus came to tell and show the Way to Him. for Jeshua-ist there is no place for worshipping a three-headed god. For them there is only One True God, Who was and is the God of Abraham and Jesus.

Jeshua-ists want to honour the Nazarene Jewish rabbi and want to make his name better known. They want to let the people know that he is the Way to God and the sent one from God who gave his life as a payment for the sins of all, to redeem them from slavery of death for sin.



The majority of Jeshua-ists may have a Jewish background, but there is also a connection made with non-trinitarian Christians who follow the same master teacher and Messiah Jesus Christ..

You may find some WordPress Jeshua-ist websites on the net:

A general platform: Jeshua-ists - Jeshuaisten

A personal site with the name Jeshuaist

A personal site of Immanuel Verbondskind

Monday 10 February 2014

Not words of any organisation should bind you, but the Word of God

English: Converted into a home. The old Church...
Converted into a home. The old Church House where the Sunday School and other Church functions were held. Above the door is a cross and the words "Gair Duw, Gorau Dysg" which roughly translated means "the word of God, is the best of learning. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Many people do think they only can be considered religious when they belong to a church and go to Sunday mass or Sunday service.They think it is all right when they just listen to the sermon, and think their own part of it. For the rest of the week they think they are in the clearance and they will earn their heaven.
English: Roman Catholic Church, Bedgrove. This...
Roman Catholic Church, Bedgrove. This unusually shaped Roman Catholic church in Bedgrove is opposite a Church of England church on the other side of a small road 197577 - they can probably hear each others' congregations singing on a Sunday ! (Photo credit: Wikipedia)


It should not be the connection with one or the other church that should bring us peace at heart. Our priority should not be on the regulations of one or the other church-organisation. It also should not be a one week off thing.

To be a child of God we should have more than one visit a week by our heavenly Father. The thing that greets your mind and fills your heart as you wake each morning should be your relationship with the Most High Elohim. It should be His Name, Jehovah, that should be on your lips all day long. His commandments should guide you and not so much the commandments of human organisations. 

I do agree we can not do without human organisations and human regulations in this world. We have to live in this world so have to be people trying to make a living in this world. But that does not mean we do have to be 'from this world'. We should be not "of this world" but "be in it". Being aware of what happens and reacting to what happens. So we can not be ignoring lots of things what happen.

We should protect those who have no voice (plants, animals and poor human beings). We should come up for the weak ones, be it plants, animals or human beings.

Being in this world we should let us guide by the Word of God, the Most High Sovereing. 

The best Guide for us is the Word of God, which should be in our mind from morning until late at night. Your final thought as you settle in for a night of sleep should be how you kept your relation that day in harmony with the Word of God. Conformity of your beliefs accordance the Bible.

Your willingness to stay in line with the commandments of God, more than with the regulations of a chuch denomination or laws of a country should be your priority.  It should define how you face your day, and it should shape your self-reflections. It should be the thing that directs how you respond to others. It should be at the forefront of your thoughts in times of trouble or disappointment. It should alter how you think about finances, possessions, decisions, relationships, and everything else. It should be a central theme of your existence. It's so huge, so gorgeous, and so glorious that once it gets hold of you, you’ll never be the same again.

That is what shall make you a follower of Christ and being worthy to call yourself a Christian.  Often trinitarians say we non-trinitarians are no Christians, but they forget that being a Christian means following the teaching of Christ. Often they are more following the dogmatic teachings of their denomination. As such we could say they should not call themselves Christian, but should call themselves Roman Catholic, Orthodox Catholic, Old Catholic, Lutheran, Calvinist, Anglican, or follower of the Church of England, but not follower of Christ.

Those who would like to follow Christ Jesus, Jeshua from Nazareth, accepting that he really did die for their sins (remember God can not die)  making him as their saviour and master teacher, high priest and mediator for God and man.

You don’t need to be an expert at riddles for this one. I‘m talking about grace.

If you’re God’s child, grace is the stunning core reality of your existence. It’s the most amazing thing that has ever happened to you, or ever will. It has changed everything you have, do, and are. It’s redefined your past, refocused your present, and reshaped your future. It’s the thing that you’ve needed since your first breath. It’s an absolutely essential ingredient of productive living on this side of eternity. It’s what you and I will focus on and celebrate for the rest of eternity. And it’s vital that in preparation for eternity we start our celebration now.

Those who take Jesus to be God nullify Jesus his action and degrade him to a fake and liar, because all the things he said about himself and God are than not true and he did not tell the truth when he said he did not know who would be sitting next to him in the Kingdom of God, or when the end-times would come. Jesus even said he did not know when he would return but God knows everything. So when Jesus is God he did tell gross lies.

If you would have your child telling it does not know who did what, when it did it herself, would you not consider it to be not telling the truth? When it did something and would say "I did not do it, but it was my father who did it" would you not call it a liar?

Those who take Jesus for the human being, having flesh, blood and bones, whilst God as a Spirit has not such things, and are willing to follow the teachings of this Nazarene Jew, who believed in the God of Abraham and showed us the way to his heavenly Father, they perhaps can call themselves a follower of Christ or Christian. And when they are baptised and take Jehovah God as their only One God between all the gods of this earth, they can become children of God like Jesus was a son of God, they could be a daughter or son of God and calling Christ their 'brother' and other males 'brother in Christ' and other females 'sister in Christ'.

All the others better call themselves the Church they are following so be an Pentecostal or Evangelist, or Catholic, but not a Christian in the pure sense of the word. They better choose if they want to become a Christian or stay a Catholic, and be part of the Babylon and not of God.


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Please do find to read:

  1. Did the Inspirator exist
  2. God, Creation and the Bible Hope
  3. God of gods
  4. A god between many gods
  5. Only One God
  6. God is One
  7. “Who is The Most High” ? Who is thee Eternal? Who is Yehovah? Who is God?
  8. The Divine name of the Creator
  9. God about His name “יהוה“
  10. Jehovah Yahweh Gods Name
  11. Sayings around God
  12. Attributes of God
  13. One God the Father, a compendium of essays
  14. Some one or something to fear #6 Faith in the Most High
  15. God Helper and Deliverer
  16. God is Spirit
  17. Praise the most High Jehovah God above all
  18. Praise and give thanks to God the Most Highest
  19. Lord or Yahuwah, Yeshua or Yahushua
  20. Yahushua, Yehoshua, Yeshua, Jehoshua of Jeshua
  21. Jesus begotten Son of God #12 Son of God
  22. Seeing Jesus
  23. Jesus Messiah
  24. Christ begotten through the power of the Holy Spirit
  25. Who was Jesus?
  26. Jesus spitting image of his father
  27. Jesus and his God
  28. Is Jesus God?Jesus and His God
  29. Jesus is the Son of God but Not God the Son
  30. How much was Jesus man, and how much was he God?
  31. On the Nature of Christ
  32. Jesus spitting image of his father
  33. Yeshua a man with a special personality
  34. A man with an outstanding personality
  35. Reasons that Jesus was not God
  36. The wrong hero
  37. He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. #1 Creator and His Prophets
  38. Jesus begotten Son of God #5 Apsotle, High Priest and King
  39. Jesus begotten Son of God #13 Pre-existence excluding virginal birth of the Only One Transposed
  40. Jesus begotten Son of God #14 Beloved Preminent Son and Mediator originating in Mary
  41. Jesus begotten Son of God #19 Compromising fact
  42. One Mediator
  43. Nazarene Commentary Luke 3:1, 2 – Factual Data
  44. A fact of History or just a fancy Story
  45. Politics and power first priority #2
  46. Politics and power first priority #3 Elevation of Mary and the Holy Spirit
  47. A promise given in the Garden of Eden
  48. 2 Corinthians 5:19 – God in Christ
  49. Christ Versus the Trinity
  50. Is God a Trinity?
  51. The Trinity – true or false?
  52. The Trinity – the Truth
  53. The Trinity: paganism or Christianity?
  54. Trinity And Pagan Influence
  55. How did the Trinity Doctrine Develop
  56. How did the doctrine of the Trinity arise?
  57. History of the acceptance of a three-in-one God
  58. Questions for those who believe in the Trinity
  59. Altered to fit a Trinity
  60. Preexistence in the Divine purpose and Trinity
  61. The Great Trinity Debate
  62. Christianity without the Trinity
  63. TD Jakes Breaks Down the Trinity, Addresses Being Called a ‘Heretic’
  64. Compromise and accomodation
  65. Look for your Refuge by God
  66. Written to recognise the Promised One
  67. Christ begotten through the power of the Holy Spirit
  68. Do not be afraid. Good news because a Saviour has been born
  69. About a man who changed history of humankind
  70. No Other Name (But Jesus)
  71. Doesn’t the name “Immanuel” show that Jesus is God, and therefore proves the Trinity? (Isa. 7:14, Mat. 1:23)
  72. Is Isaiah 9:6′s “Wonderful counselor” related to Isaiah 7:14 and 8:8′s “Immanuel”?
  73. Why does Isaiah 9:6 call Jesus “Mighty God, Everlasting Father”?
  74. In the death of Christ, the son of God, is glorification
  75. One Mediator between God and man
  76. Philippians 1 – 2
  77. Worshipping Jesus
  78. Idolatry or idol worship
  79. People Seeking for God 2 Human interpretations
  80. People Seeking for God 4 Biblical terms
  81. Patriarch Abraham, Muslims, Christians and the son of God
  82. Science and God’s existence
  83. Science, belief, denial and visibility 1
  84. Blackness, nothingness, something, void
  85. Being Religious and Spiritual 5 Gnostic influences
  86. Joseph Priestley To the Point
  87. Hanukkahgiving or Thanksgivvukah
  88. Not all christians are followers of a Greco-Roman culture
  89. Thanksgivukkah and Advent
  90. The professor, God, Faith and the student
  91. Concerning gospelfaith
  92. Creator and Blogger God 7 A Blog of a Book 1 Believing the Blogger
  93. Apologetics (23) – The Hard Questions: Which God? The Exclusivity Issue (7) The Resurrection and Exclusivity
  94. Pluralis Majestatis in the Holy Scriptures
  95. Finding and Understanding Words and Meanings
  96. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #1 Kings Faith
  97. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #3 Voice of God #3 A voice to be taken Seriously
  98. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #3 Voice of God #4 Words in Scripture
  99. Trusting, Faith, Calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #4 Transitoriness #1 Prosperity
  100. Trusting, Faith, Calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #5 Prayer #3 Callers upon God
  101. Trusting, Faith, Calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #6 Prayer #4 Attitude
  102. Trusting, Faith, Calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #10 Prayer #8 Condition
  103. Trusting, Faith, Calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #12 Prayer #10 Talk to A Friend
  104. Trusting, Faith, Calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #14 Prayer #12 The other name
  105. Follower of Jesus part of a cult or a Christian
  106. Edward Wightman
  107. Focus on Jehovah’s Witnesses
  108. Book of Mormon (5): God and Jesus
  109. The Book of Mormon: (7) Right First Principles are Essential to Getting it Right
  110. What the Qur’an Says About…(2): Jesus
  111. Creation’s Gospel: (12) The Veiled Glory
  112. Walking alone?
  113. God doesn’t call the qualified
  114. God loving people justified
  115. Congregation – Congregatie
  116. En Soma: One Body
  117. Parts of the body of Christ
  118. What part of the Body am I?
  119. The Church, Body of Christ and remnant Israel synonymous
  120. United people under Christ
  121. Rebirth and belonging to a church
  122. Making church
  123. A learning process for each of us
  124. Being of good courage running the race
  125. Self-development, self-control, meditation, beliefs and spirituality 
  126. Fellowship
  127. Follower of Jesus part of a cult or a Christian
  128. An ecclesia in your neighborhood
  129. Intentions of an Ecclesia
  130. Breathing and growing with no heir
  131. Breathing to teach 
  132. The attraction of doing something
  133. Church sent into the world
  134. Religious Practices around the world
  135. Condemnation of the World and Illustration of Justification 
  136. Breaking up with a cult
  137. Answering a fool according to his folly
  138. Religion and spirituality
  139. Science, belief, denial and visibility 2
  140. Loving the Word

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Friday 24 September 2010

Commitment to Christian unity

When the pope, at Westminster Abbey in London where he participated in an ecumenical celebration of Vespers on September 17, said:   "Our commitment to Christian unity is born of nothing less than our faith in Christ. ... It is the reality of Christ's person, His saving work and above all the historical fact of His resurrection, which is the content of the apostolic 'kerygma' and those credal formulas which, beginning in the New Testament itself, have guaranteed the integrity of its transmission. The Church's unity, in a word, can never be other than a unity in the apostolic faith, in the faith entrusted to each new member of the Body of Christ during the rite of Baptism. It is this faith which unites us to the Lord". did he wanted all around to believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the only apostolic church?

Speaking for a trinitarian public he could further say: "I come here today as a pilgrim from Rome, to pray before the tomb of St. Edward the Confessor and to join you in imploring the gift of Christian unity. May these moments of prayer and friendship confirm us in love for Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour, and in common witness to the enduring power of the Gospel to illumine the future of this great nation". Because we think he would not like to see the non-trinitarian Christians in unity with their church.

Important to remember is: "Here we cannot help but be reminded of how greatly the Christian faith shaped the unity and culture of Europe and the heart and spirit of the English people. Here too, we are forcibly reminded that what we share, in Christ, is greater than what continues to divide us".
Benedict XVI recalled how this year marks the centenary of the modern ecumenical movement which "began with the Edinburgh Conference's appeal for Christian unity as the prerequisite for a credible and convincing witness to the Gospel in our time. In commemorating this anniversary, we must give thanks for the remarkable progress made towards this noble goal through the efforts of committed Christians of every denomination. At the same time, however, we remain conscious of how much yet remains to be done. In a world marked by growing interdependence and solidarity, we are challenged to proclaim with renewed conviction the reality of our reconciliation and liberation in Christ, and to propose the truth of the Gospel as the key to authentic and integral human development".

You can wounder what the Church's unity should be. Is a unity in the apostolic faith not to believe what the apostles themseves believed? And would this not mean that all Christians should keep to the first centuries believe of those who really  knew Jesus from first hand? But more important should Christians not go back to their leader they are proclaiming to follow?

Normally we all should strive to Christian unity, but we should be following all that Jesus asked us to do. We should keep to the tasks he gave to his disciples. In case Trinitarian Christians would like to their idea that Jesus is also God they should also accept those who keep to the words of Jesus and his Holy Father. In the Holy Scriptures their relationship is clearly described.

The Vatican see themselves as the “mother” church. The universal church. The word Catholic means “universal”. They see other Christian churches as wayward daughters that need to be brought back under her wings. The Pope’s ambition therefore is to become head of all Christian religion. But do we not have to look at what the Scriptures gave as warning to the next generations? Revelation 17:2 says that the “kings of the earth” have committed fornication with the harlot woman of Rome.

What happened yesterday is important for Christians to see in the light of the Bible.
As the Anglicans and Catholics all sang together in London (latter day Tyre) we heard not joyful words but the singing of “an harlot” as prophesied in Isaiah 23. “Tyre shall sing as an harlot”. The singing which began in 1996/7 is reaching a crescendo. The judgement of latter day Tyre will soon come. The next chapter says “the noise of them that rejoice endeth…” Isaiah 24:8

Get to know more in the  Weekly World Watch 12th - 18th Sept 2010‏